Introduction/Index

In addition there is the aspect of seeing each of us as souls, and not the body. From this perspective, our spiritual development is not necessarily related to our knowledge of physical events. On a higher level, we will do the things we need to do, whether we know mentally what the future holds or not. At the same time, by not revealing certain things we are left with the desire to know more.

 Our Lady of Fatima

Words of the Virgin Mary to the children in Fatima:

The time is getting nearer and the abyss is getting wider, without hope

In May of 1917 (remember this date), in the tiny village of Fatima Portugal, the Virgin Mary showed Herself to three young children; 9 year old Lucia, 7 year old Francisco, and 6 year old Hacinta. The children described seeing a beautiful young female being, who they first thought to be an angel. Others, at the site, reported seeing only a bright cloud in the sky. To the children however, She identified Herself, as Mary, and told them, that She would return five months later to perform a miracle for everyone to see. She also pledged to deliver three secrets to the children at that time.

Within those 5 months, She reappeared to them many more times, giving them prophecies and advice for people in the town. Early on in these visits, She told the children, that two of them would die very soon, and one would live for a long time. Not long after the visions ceased, this came to pass. Francisco and Hacinta were victims of the influenza, that took millions of lives in 1918. Lucia is still alive today, living the cloistered life as a nun.

The best known and most spectacular appearance though, was at the time of the promised miracle for the masses. On October 13, 1917, exactly 5 months after the original vision, more than 80,000 people jammed the village awaiting the promised event. Many non-believers, and journalists were there. Before the Virgin appeared, it was a cloudy, rainy day. Then, towards the afternoon, the children went into a trance, the clouds parted, and someone said, "look at the sun!"

The news reporters described the spectacle as a mysterious solar occurrence. The faithful called the vision ‘the dancing sun’. However, not everyone would describe the event in exactly the same way. Some said, the sun appeared to be spinning wildly on its axis, while emitting white blue, and green sparks, along with great rays of light. Others, reported seeing it approaching, or becoming larger, as if it were falling towards the earth. Still others would say, it appeared to spiral down to the horizon two or three times, then rise up again. Everyone who witnessed this spectacle was greatly affected. Many dropped to their knees in reverence. The non-believers asked for forgiveness.

The Secrets

While the sun was dancing, the three secrets were given to the children. The secrets were believed to be as follows;

The first secret -

A terrifying vision of hell on earth

The second secret-

When you see the night lit up by the great unknown light, know, that it is a sign God gives you, of the punishment of the world, by another war, famine, and persecution, of the holy church, and the Holy Father

The third secret-

Was only to be to be given to the Pope, and opened in 1960. John Paul II has reportedly confided to some friends, that when he had read this prophecy, he began to tremble with fear, nearly fainting.

Perspective

This appearance in Fatima by the Virgin Mary, is the first well-publicized case, where She relayed the vision of a coming Great Chastisement. Since then, there have been numerous other visions of Her all over the world, which have included this horrific view of the future. While some of these have included visions of a ‘dancing sun’, there has been no other cases where it has been seen simultaneously by so many people, as in this little village in Portugal.

Because this vision occurred near the end of World War I, it would be logical to conclude, that the view of a ‘hell on earth’, as given in the first secret, was a glimpse at the atrocities of World War II. Certainly, the Nazi death camps, and the atomic bombs dropped on Japan, could resemble anyone’s concept of hell. So it is, that this is the commonly accepted interpretation, of this secret. Secret number two is still considered to be a mystery, and obviously secret three, has not been revealed publicly by either the Pope, or Lucia as of this time.

Personally, I believe there is more to be gained from what happened around the three children, than this. However, in order to make any sense of what we have been given here, the first thing we need to do is, determine if what Mary was showing everyone, was about just one, or several different future events. From my own experience with visions, I would conclude, that all of the descriptions, by both the children, and the thousands of people who saw the 'dancing sun', related to one great catastrophic event to come.

In fact, I believe, that to properly interpret this appearance, we need to include, not only the secrets, and the miracle of the sun, but, the date She appeared, the date She gave the secrets, the name of the town, its location, the fact that a World War was going on, and how that war ended. In other words, this was a major spectacle, which was meant to be known, by people everywhere in the world. The full scope of what was revealed during this first great warning by Mary includes the whole aspect of what is to come.

One of the most remarkable things about divine wisdom, is how the actions of those souls connected to this source, can relate a wide spectrum of knowledge through various channels all at the same time. Here for instance, Mary may have had a direct affect on the outcome of WW I, at the same time She is giving a warning about something which is going to happen in the future. One needs to realize that everything the higher souls do is a teaching. Every movement, every action, when it happens, where it occurs, what is said, who said it etc. There is nothing wasted. There is nothing casual. These souls do not just appear for no reason. There is no idle conversation. It is their one, and only purpose, to provide for, protect, and guide the younger souls in this world. It is an inherent nature of the essence of the Spirit.

As a soul, we have far more capacity than the average person can imagine. With this greater capacity, comes the ability to ‘see’ things from a different perspective. Indeed, our growth is about being able to see things from this higher view. Thus, it is the nature of any contact with the higher souls, that they will impart to you a bigger picture of the relationship between the divine, and the physical. This is another reason why visions are so difficult to describe. Not only are you experiencing a myriad of images, feelings, words, emotions, and intuitive knowledge, but you see that it is all intertwined.

Because of this, most times, it is very difficult to describe only one aspect of what you ‘see’. Like each part of a puzzle, all of the pieces must fit together, to give you the whole picture. It is as if, no one thing can be explained, without giving you information about several other things at the same time. You can see this, in the difficulty Mr. Cayce has in attempting to express the answers in some of his readings. It is also one of the reasons, for the format Nostradamus chose to convey his visions. It is a universal aspect of the process. With this in mind, let's review the pieces of the scene at Fatima again.

Let’s begin by looking at the three secrets. It is my belief, that Mary’ appearance at Fatima was our first warning about the final events of this age. Therefore, what is conveyed in the ‘secrets’ relates only to the great destruction, which is usually associated with the Battle of Armageddon, and its climatic end. As it is pretty well accepted, that this battle did not occur during W.W.II, thus, this is something, which is yet to come. As Mary’s main focus has always been on those events, which are to precede the Second Coming of Her Son Jesus, it would only make sense, that Her warnings are only about those things relevant to the ‘end times’.

In this light, what the secrets tell us is; there is going to be an event, which will create conditions on this planet, which will be as close to a hell on earth, as you can imagine (Armageddon and its climatic end). Before this happens, there will be a warning. You will see the same ‘unknown light’ in the night sky, you have seen before. I want you to give some instructions to the Pope in 1960, which he is to pass on to the faithful, to help them prepare for the final event.

Now let’s go a little deeper into the nature of the secrets. In all the cases, where Mary has given someone a vision of the Great Chastisement, it has been described as a worldwide condition. Hell, in the traditional form of Christian beliefs, is most often a representation of what was described in Dante's Inferno. A place where there is great heat, fire, rotting flesh, torture, misery, and suffering. The sensation is supposed to be like being burned at the stake. But, in hell you can never escape the pain.

While I do not believe, there is really such a thing as this form of never ending purgatory, I am sure we have seen Dante’s version of hell on earth before. The problem is, we don’t want to remember it. Neither do we want to look forward to another episode of anything similar. Yet, it is this version of hell, which occurs at the end of every world age. It is described over, and over again, in all of the ancient texts. I believe, this was at least a part of the vision of hell given to the children. The complete picture would include a nuclear war, which is also predicted for the end of this age. Un-arguably, this combination of events would result in a real hell on earth.

Further, I believe this vision of hell given in the first secret, is the focal point, around which everything else on that day in October revolves. It was a view of the war leading up to the final conflict at Armageddon and the use of nuclear weapons during that war. How this war is to be ended by the ‘Hand of God’, which will produce even more destruction than the war itself. After this ‘Great Chastisement’ Jesus will return to earth with an army of angels, to help mankind rebuild anew.

Indeed, this has been Mary’s message from the beginning, and continues to be Her message in all of Her appearances. It is also the message gleaned from the holy texts, and prophesied by everyone included in this writing. The magnitude of Her appearance in Fatima is only rivaled by the magnitude of these age ending events. Therefore, this was Her first warning that the time for these things to occur is really at hand.

Now let’s look at secret number two, about a warning sign. This is something, which is to occur before the war begins. What we are to see, is an ‘unknown light’ in the night sky. It could be, this light will be seen around the world, however, because this vision was given in Europe, it is at least certain, it will be seen in the area where She appeared. So, do we have any idea what this light will be? I think so.

On June 30, 1908, the night skies over Europe were lit up to the degree, that you could read a newspaper, and take pictures (which was an accomplishment in 1908) at midnight in London. This eerie light, is not remembered as one of the great events of the century. Few people in our generation even know about it. However, in 1908 it was in newspapers all around the world. In the New York Times, it was written up as ‘Strange Northern Lights’ which appeared over Northern Europe for two consecutive nights after June 8th.

They were described as; ‘bright diffused white, and yellow illuminations, that continued through the night’. Two theories were presented in the article to explain the phenomena. One was that similar effects were seen when the Krakatoa volcano erupted in 1883, thereby assuming that another great volcano had exploded somewhere. This theory was quickly disproved. Another explanation was, that the sun’s surface must have changed somehow, causing electrical discharges to affect the atmosphere.

Eventually, information filtered out of Russia, that a giant explosion had taken place over the Tunguska River in Siberia. Further investigation confirmed the timing of this detonation, with the light seen 3500 miles away in London. However, it wasn’t until 1928, that an expedition was mounted to find out what might have caused this phenomenon. A few scientists guessed, this H-bomb class explosion, was the result of a meteor blowing up in the atmosphere. The first scientists to investigate the site focused primarily on trying to find the debris of a meteor. None was found. There was no definitive proof for the cause of this event until after W.W.II.

In the mean time, myriads of explanations were offered. Even today, some people hold to various other causes for this explosion, including a solar flare, a space ship exploding, or Nikola Tesla experimenting with an electronic ray gun. While most scientists believed it was an asteroid explosion from the beginning, the lack of any debris prevented them from confirming this theory. In the 1960’s, meteor dust was finally found imbedded in the trees under the blast point. This confirmed the cause of the event as being the result of a stony asteroid, or comet exploding high up in the atmosphere.

The vision at Fatima, came only 9 years after the ‘unknown light’ which was created by the Tunguska explosion. I believe, it is definitely possible, Mary was making reference to this 1908 phenomena, as it will compare to something we will see in the future. There certainly must have been people in 1917, who would have remembered this earlier ‘unknown light’. Since the first expedition to the Tunguska site, did not occur until 1928, there was no valid scientific explanation for it in 1917. Thus, at the time of Her apparition in Fatima, the cause of that light was still considered to be ‘unknown’.

The words ‘when you see the night lit up by the great unknown light’, sounds to me like a description of exactly what happened in Europe in 1908. As this secret came in 1917, after the Tunguska event, it would only seem logical, that She is talking about another meteor of this size, or larger, exploding in the atmosphere before the 'Great Chastisement' occurs. This could be another reason for Mary to appear at this particular time. If She was going to use this ‘unknown light’ as a warning, She would have to come after the 1908 explosion.

As an additional note, one has to wonder why so much attention has been paid to the Tunguska incident in the first place. Even today, research on this blast site continues in Russia. Theories still abound about what could have happened, and virtually everyone has heard of this incident. Could it be, that all this has happened in order to reinforce the reference to the ‘unknown light’ by Mary? I would tend to believe this could be. Why the mystery around this event should continue, becomes even more poignant, when you consider that in 1947 a 70 ton asteroid exploded over Eastern Russia, and in the 1960’s two meteors blew up over South America. However, virtually no one is aware of these two events and neither produced the ‘unknown lights which were associated with Tunguska.

Until recently, scientists determined the odds of the Tunguska type of event as occurring once every one hundred years. By this standard we are due for another one of these explosions at any time. In 1998 these scientists were thrown for a loop however, when the US military released information from their world satellite tracking system. This system was put in place to watch for intercontinental missile launches, and large scale detonations. To the surprise of the astrophysics community, no less than twenty 1-megaton meteor explosions recorded by this system in the previous 10 years. That would be an average of 2 hydrogen bomb sized detonations in the atmosphere per year.

In the light of this information, the first question, which comes to mind, is why we haven’t known about this degree of frequency previously? Namely, it is because the human population actually occupies a very small amount of space on this planet. Most of the explosions happen over the oceans or in unpopulated areas, such as the Polar Regions. Some of these have produced shock waves, which have been heard, but mistakenly believed to be the results of military planes breaking the sound barrier. The most important point however, is that these things are occurring much more frequently than anyone cares to admit. It is only a matter of time before one of these blasts will happen over a populated area.

Thus it is that there is growing scientific information, which supports the imminent possibility of the fulfillment of Mary’s predictions about the Final Warning. It should be obvious, that it is not a question of whether it is going to happen, only a question of when one of these explosions will occur at the proper height, and intensity to produce the ‘unknown light’. I must also point out, that from the scientific evidence, there are other possibilities, which could produce this phenomenon as well. These could also relate to Mary’s predictions, and will be further explored in a later chapter.

Although some information has leaked out about the nature of secret number three, let’s assume for the moment, that we know nothing else, other than it was to be given to the pope in 1960. With this knowledge, it should be obvious, that whatever was in this message, it concerned events, which were to happen after this point. The only other option would be, it was about something to happen in the same year. The only real question then is; did the third secret have anything to do with secrets one, and two?

It is my contention, that they all must be related. One key factor to this is, that as of 2000 we have not see the ‘unknown light’. Neither have I found any reports of an ‘unknown light’ occurring before W.W.II. This tells me, that this war was not what the vision of hell was about. Therefore, I have to conclude, that the secret delivered in 1960 included more details about the vision of hell, which would thus have to occur after this date. In this light it may be that Mary purposely directed the third message be delivered in 1960, in order to confirm W.W.II was not what the hell on earth vision was about.

I believe it is also worth noting, that 1960 is at the beginning of the transition period as defined by Edgar Cayce. It is very likely Mary is also confirming this time to be when we will see the beginning of the events, which are to mark the end of this age. As we will see in the next chapters, She may also have been setting the stage for Her return in Garabandal in 1961. Whatever the case, I would suggest that the messages given by Mary should not be taken lightly. Nothing as magnanimous as Her appearances since 1917 has ever occurred before.

The crowds view of the ‘dancing sun’, must also be more significant than just a dazzling display of power. A divinely inspired vision is never simply about the ability to defy nature. Certainly, the fact that people were able to look directly at the sun, and not go blind, as well as, see this orb doing some very un-natural things, is amazing in itself, but the real lessons should not be lost in the awesome nature of the display. I will be the first to tell you, that you need to be able to master the deepest respect for the capacity of the divine, but to mystify it to the degree, that you become dumb with awe, is not the point.

In this light, I would submit that the vision of the sun was a demonstration of the source of the causes of the hell on earth. I would also suggest, that the sun represents the source of divine power as well. So, our next question is; what do the descriptions of the sun’s movements mean? To review them again, there were three different things the sun did; it emitted sparks of energy while spinning wildly. It grew bigger, as if it was falling towards the earth. It spiraled down to the horizon and rose back up again.

Cayce aptly states that the earth changes, and the pole shift, are directly related to the absorption of solar radiation by the earth. As of 1998, it is generally acknowledge that the sun has grown hotter in the past few years. This combined with the greenhouse gases is resulting in a major impact on the earth’s environment. A definite correlation has been established for increased solar output as the sun reaches the peak of its 11-year solar flare cycles. Evidence is growing towards the confirmation of greater cycles of thermal output as well.

The image of sparks, or rays, emitting from the sun, could very easily be a symbolic representation of the radiation mentioned by Cayce. This vision would indicate to me, that we are going to be subject to all kinds of radiation as well as just heat. Every eleven years, there is a peak in the number of Sun spots detected in the suns corona. These anomalies are caused by intense electromagnetic surges, which cause dark spots on the sun’s surface. These surges also produce solar flares, which are ejected out into space. The vision of the sun spinning wildly, while emitting sparks, could have been a view of this phenomena.

Now for the sun growing larger, as if it were falling towards the earth. As we will see in other messages from Our Lady, during the Great Chastisement, two suns will be seen in the he sky. It will be as if something with the intensity of the sun is hovering very close to the earth. The source of this phenomenon, will, also in a sense, come out of the sun. I believe what was ‘seen’ by the crowds as the sun falling towards the earth, was a representation of this occurrence. I will be exploring the complete ramifications of this event with the later predictions.

The view of the sun spiraling down into the ocean, then rising up again, has significance as well. This effect is what would be seen if the predictions of Mr. Cayce are fulfilled about a pole shift. We are also going to see messages from Our Lady, which describe the same event. As the earth rolls over, it will most likely do so within a fairly short period of time, perhaps as short as a day. Depending on what part of the planet you are on, you would see the sun doing some very un-natural things. In some places it would stand still. In others it will go up, a ways, and then back down. In still other areas, there will be an extended night. I believe it is no coincidence, that the ancient texts describe this phenomenon as well.

Let’s consider one more possibility. In the days when Nostradamus was living, astrology was used in the medical field, as well as being in integral part of the teachings of the Catholic Church. There are churches from this era still standing, where you will find inlayed astrological images on the floors, and walls. The format depicted there, is an abstract of what is currently used today by astrological forecasters. It may very well be, that this practice which is frowned upon by the church today, was actually created, and used by them for hundreds of years.

The frescos in these churches depict a sun with an image of Jesus in the center, surrounded by the 12 houses of the Zodiac, which have both the names of the 12 apostles along with the constellations used today. Since none of the other astrological methods used by older cultures include 12 divisions of the heavens, I would have to assume this was a creation of the Catholic Church. Before scoffing at this possibility you should remember, that this occurred during a time when the earth was considered to be flat, and at the center of the universe. This astrological representation of Christ and His Apostles in the heavens, is only a logical carry over from the times when gods were always represented by heavenly bodies.

As I hinted at earlier, in the Nostradamus quatrain about the Hurricane, and the King, there is a dominant theme in all of the prophecies, and certainly in every spiritual text, that God is in heaven, and Satan is of the earth. Thus, those destruction’s which are inspired by earthly forms, are of a lower level, and those which are divinely inspired, come from heaven. Therefore, the visions of the sun, could also be a representation of the power of Christ. Not only as an image of His divine light, but the fact that the Great Chastisement will come for the heavens.

In this context the sun spinning, and issuing rays of light, could represent His Love shining upon us. It’s growing larger, as if falling to the earth a sign of His return. Descending to the ground, and rising again, a sign of His resurrection. This image of the Christ as the sun, and His return, would certainly have been significant in past spiritual beliefs. At the least, from what I have seen, I have no doubt the sun can be influenced by the greater souls in our solar system.

As I have always contented, Nature, and the divine, while each having their own domain are at the same time interrelated. There are inherent forces, which are necessary to manifest the physical form. At the same time, these may be manipulated to some degree by higher forces. These manipulations are given to demonstrate to us, that there is something beyond the physical existence. While science may offer explanations based on physical relationships, the question will always remain, who established these relationships in the first place? Whoever it is, if they have the power to create it, then certainly, they would have the power to destroy it.

Thus, I would submit that if what I have presented here was not representative of the meaning of the sun’s movements, they did mean something more than just an impressive display of power. If the people who saw this event were listening with their hearts, as well as watching with their eyes, they would have ‘heard’ something, which would have explained what they were seeing. In addition, they might have ‘seen’ the nature of the universal spiritual axiom, that the physical world is the dream, and the world of the soul is the reality.

Mary entered the ‘dream’ of the physical form at a particular point in time. The time She picked was at the height of World War I. I believe this was yet another part of the picture, in addition to what She showed the people, and told the children. Of particular interest, is how this war ended. While the history books show, that the Allies defeated the Central Powers on the battle field, some analyst’s claim, that this war was actually concluded, because of the influenza, which took the lives of the two children at Fatima. The fact is, that most of the troops on all sides of this conflict, either died, or were too ill to fight because of this disease. Because of this, the war could not continue.

8.5 million solders died in the fighting. 10 million civilians were killed as well. 20 million more died of the influenza during 1918, the final year of the war. This flu was called the Spanish Influenza, because it was believed to have started in Spain. The virus, which caused the Spanish Flu, is still considered to be a mystery today. At the time is occurred, it had the doctors, and scientists baffled. There seemed to be, there was nothing they could do to stop it. There was never any vaccine developed, which could stem the tide of death. It began shortly after the beginning of 1918, and it ended just as mysteriously as it began, with the conclusion of WW I, in November of that year. Could it be that the 2 children in Portugal were the beginning of this disease? That it was intentionally started by the divine to end the war?

At some point in the battle at Armageddon, it is predicted there will be divine intervention, which end this war. I believe this will come, just as Mary appeared during World War I. With Her appearance in Fatima, there was divine interdiction in that war, with the introduction of the influenza. It is also predicted, that the event which ends the war at Armageddon, will kill just as many people, if not more, than the war itself. If we can use this analogy of Mary’s appearance during World War I, as a precursor of what is to happen at the end of Armageddon, then there are a few other similarities worth mentioning. It was the influenza of the First World War, which took the life of two of the children, after they were shown things about what was going to happen in the final great conflict. On this basis, it could be presumed, that the interdiction, which will end a future conflict, will take the lives of two out of three of Her children as well. Indeed, we will see Mary state this directly in other messages.

To take this idea to its conclusion, it very well could be that both World Wars, I and II, were only a precursor to an even greater war that will signal the final days of this age. My example of a wave building would fit this scenario well. Each global conflict bigger than the next, with the final battle including all of the elements of the first two with disease, pestilence, nuclear weapons, and a final great explosion near Japan. In a higher sense, this is how these things can be ‘seen’.

Another question which should be asked is: Why did Mary appear in Fatima? Could there be some significance to Her being seen in a town named after the daughter of Muhammad? Could this have something to do with other prophecies about events to come in the Middle East? Fatima was the only child of Muhammad to bear offspring. She married Ali, Mohammed’s’ cousin, and from them descended the Fatimids, a medieval caliphate of northern Africa.

Could it be, Mary has incarnated in many forms, including key figures in other religions? This would certainly be plausible in my mind. Could She be the Mother of both the Muslim, as well as the Christian Saviors? I believe this may be more than likely. Let’s also remember that the holy sites of both of these religions, and the Jews, are virtually the same. Mohammed rose to heaven on the site of the Jewish Temple. Jesus was crucified, and resurrected from a site nearby. Mary’s connection with the Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths may be a reason for Her other appearances around the Mediterranean, which have been associated with an effort on Her part, to heal the differences between the Christian, and Moslem believers. Perhaps this is the reason why She appears in a village named for a direct descendant of Mohammed, revealing a message to three Catholic children.

A more ominous possibility is, that Fatima was a sign of the beginning of a resurgence of the Muslim influence, which will blossom into a movement for conquest. Since the advent of the Islamic religion, we have seen a great ebb, and flow of areas dominated by the followers of this sect. At their height, they occupied much of Europe, all of North Africa, and east into India. The battle cry of Osama bin Laden is to renew the wars between the Christians, Jews, and Muslims, which have always focused on the holy lands now occupied by Israel. Out of this may come a new resurgence on their part for world domination.

While virtually everyone is aware of Mary’s appearance in Portugal, I don’t think it is appreciated just how auspicious this event really was. It is my belief, that this event was our first real warning; the end time predictions are truly at hand. In addition to the nature of the visions, and the prophetic secrets, there are two other aspects of Her appearance, which are even more profound to me. These things have to do with the timing of Her appearance, and the great miracle five months later.

Consider for a moment, that it is not unusual for people in this era to live to 90 years of age or older. With this in mind, let’s assume that Mary’s appearance in 1917, was based on a time when the earliest possible warning could be given to those who could live to see the Great Chastisement come about. Lucia was told that she would live a very long time. It was she who was given the secret to deliver to the Pope in 1960. She may also be destined to see the rest of the predictions fulfilled. We are going to see Cayce, and Nostradamus give us dates for a great cataclysm, which is to occur soon after the year 2000. Lucia would be in her mid 90’s at this time.

1917 is exactly ninety years from the year 2007. We have already seen the significance of the number nine, and seven in the end time scenario. For now, remember this year, 2007 and we will look for other predictions which will coincide with this time. If this theory holds true, then we might also remember the days on which She initially appeared, as well as the day of the promised miracle five months later. Both, May 13 and October 13, may hold much more significance that anyone has attached to them so far. As we continue you will see the month of May will be referenced in other predictions. Watch for these dates.

The key events from the Mary’s perspective are a Final Warning, A Great Miracle, a Nuclear War, The Great Chastisement, all followed by the return to earth of Her Son Jesus Christ. I believe it is very possible, that the dates of Her appearances, and the miracles, which occurred in Fatima, could be indicators for the timing of at least two of the three events mentioned, The Great Miracle, The Great Chastisement, and the return of Jesus. I also believe, this will occur within the lifetime of Lucia. This would have to mean that they would happen soon after the turn of the millennium.

The Nature Of Secrets

Personal Experience

At this point, I think some additional information would be appropriate, with regards to the use of ‘secrets’ in spiritual teachings. As I noted in my discussions on this topic in a previous chapter, I was presented with several ‘secrets’ early on in my spiritual education. To this day, I do not fully understand why this is done. But, I would like to offer my experience for your consideration.

The first reaction to being given a secret, is one of great privilege, and honor. A feeling of being special to the higher souls, since they have entrusted you with this unique knowledge. There is a certain aspect of power, associated with being entrusted with a ‘secret’ as well. You now possess information, which apparently only a very few people know about. At the same time however, there is a dilemma. What you have been entrusted with, is usually something others should know about.

For instance, the secret could be something that would save a life, heal an affliction, or some bit of knowledge, that would speed someone else’s spiritual growth. In the case of Fatima, it was something that would prepare people for a great disaster. It might soften the blow, or even prevent it. So the dilemma is; should you keep a secret, which could lead to the detriment of another to do so? Even if it has been given to you by the most holy of persons? What if you were to reveal a secret given to you by Jesus? Would you lose your soul, or will He abandon you if you do? I am sure, the third secret of Fatima, has put the pope in a position to ponder these questions.

In my own case, after giving me a ‘secret’, a short while later, Kumar would relay the information, in my presence, to someone else. I believe, this is what Mary does in 1961, as she gives a vision, similar to the one in Fatima, to four young girls in Spain. The Vatican had the ‘secret’ in 1960, but they make no public announcement about what was in it. Then in 1961 The Mother Mary reveals the same information in Garabandal. Was this a test for the Vatican? Was the pope really supposed to reveal the secret? Why is it, these divine souls see the need to tell people to keep certain information a secret, if they are just going to give it out to everyone anyway?

One time I revealed a secret Kumar had given to me and to my surprise nothing sinister happened. Heaven did not cave in on me, and Kumar did not leave me. Oddly enough, the only time he did scold me, was when I did not reveal the secrets. However, when he did this, I thought he was just testing me, to see if the scolding would make me ‘tell’. On the other hand, I came to see this process, as a double-edged sword. As with almost every other aspect of spiritual knowledge, one is constantly left wondering about the right thing to do.

My first resolution to this quandary, was the conclusion that if a secret is meant to be revealed, it will be done, one way or the other, whether I was the one to do it or not. Therefore, it didn’t matter what I did. It didn’t matter if I passed it on, or not. In fact, it seemed, as though, not verbalizing it was better because, the secret then would be manifested in a more pronounced or meaningful way. By not revealing it, this would force Kumar, or Mary to do so, and of coarse, whatever they did would be much more spectacular than anything I could do.

For example, what if the Pope had decided secret number three was too important to keep from the people. If he had broken from the fear of reprisal, and started to talk about the details given to him about the end times. If he had begun to tell people about how to prepare for them, would the Virgin Mary have reappeared in Garabandal in 1961? If this is so, then we could ask the question; why did the Virgin Mary appear to four children and not the Pope in the first place? Could it be that She could not trust the Vatican to deliver the message? Could She have already appeared to them previously with no effect? Could this be the reason the church is prophesized to be destroyed?

Unfortunately, I do not have the specific knowledge of what has transpired in the Vatican, which would be required to answers these questions. I think it is safe to assume however, that, the Pope has had to deal with a number of issues concerning what to do with this message. Was the message for him only, or was he to reveal this secret to the masses? To complicate things further, this is no small bit of spiritual news. It is about a future destruction of the world, as we know it.

If Pope John Paul II, believed, that this was indeed a message, delivered by one of the holiest icons of the church, he now has another problem. It appears that this icon may want him to keep certain information secret. At the same time, as Pope, all of his decisions are suppose to be for the well being of the followers of the Catholic religion. If the secret was about something his followers should know, as Pope, is it not his duty to help the believers?

As far as Mary is concerned, the use of ‘secrets’ may have been the best way to make Her message known. By making it a secret, it changes the context from the typical dooms day preaching to something more. Secrets are regarded as privileged information. They are looked upon as something more vital, or real. In addition, as a secret, people will want to know about it. This is in lieu of just passing off the information as yet more spiritual rhetoric. Ironically, the end result of this may be, that more people will be made aware of it as a secret than if She had just said it out right in the first place.

Interview With John Paul II

When Pope John Paul II was in Fulda, during a visit to Germany in Nov 1980, he was questioned about the third secret of Fatima. The following is from a copy of this interview printed by "Vox fidei" issue #10-1981.

Q): What about the third secret of Fatima? It already should have been published in 1960".

A): (of the Holy Father): Due to its shocking content, and so as not to allow the global power of communism to interfere with the affairs of the Church, my predecessors gave confidential information in a diplomatic way. In addition, it should be enough for every Christian to know the following: when you read, that oceans will flood whole continents, that millions of men will die very suddenly, in a few minutes... if this is known, it isn’t really necessary to claim the publication of this secret... Many people want to know it just for curiosity, and sensationalism: but, they forget, that "knowing" also involves responsibility...but, they just want to satisfy their own curiosity.....

Q): How will things go with the Church?

A): (of the Holy Father): "We must be ready to face great imminent trials, which could also require the sacrifice of our life for Christ... The trials could be reduced through yours, and our prayers, but they can’t be (anymore ) avoided, because a true renewal of the Church can take place only this way... just as it has already occurred many times, that the Church rose up again through blood. It won’t be different either this time. Let’s be strong, and let’s get ready, having faith in Christ, and is His Mother.

Perspective

This is the only documented case I am aware of, where the Pope reveals at least part of what was in the third secret of Fatima. It would appear, that the complete message contains more detail, about the specific nature of the final destruction. Unfortunately, here we are only given a brief part of it. However, I believe it is enough to conclude, that this secret told of things, which would match what is contained in the other prophecies about the end times

In addition to a hint about what was in the secret, we now know how the Vatican dealt with it. They saw fit to relay it in a diplomatic way, to various world governments, exclusive of those under communist rule. I guess this is one way, to avoid the responsibility of conveying the message to the followers of the Church. By passing the information on to the governments of the world, it was no longer on their shoulders whether to reveal it to the masses.

John Paul II also gives an interesting response when asked about the fate of the Catholic Church. Although he doesn’t say it specifically, it sounds like the message might have contained information with regards to its demise. The Pope says, that the Church has been torn down, and rebuilt many times, so we just have to do it again. I am not sure which cycles he is referring to here, but I don’t believe there has been anything in the history of any church, which will compare to what is coming.

His answer also includes a rather fatalistic view, of an end to his organization. He says, this is simply the way of the world, and we will just have to live with it. This position sounds like the Church is willing to martyr itself in the face of decimation, much as the Romans persecuted the early Christians. His statement exemplifies this, that there must be bloodshed as a part of the growth of the faith. I don't know about you, but this sounds a bit arcane to me.

Personally, I think one would at least have to ask the question of why the Mother Mary would go through the trouble of appearing in Fatima, and having a message delivered to the Vatican, unless She thought there was something we should do about it. She didn’t say, we are all going to be damned, and the only thing we can do is pray, She told us about a warning before a great destruction, and told the Pope how this destruction would happen. I would have to assume, She did this with the hope that we would take some physical precautions.

Still, the stance of the church appears to be that what is to come is going to be caused by the will of God. Since, we are all helpless before Him, there is nothing we can do, but take our medicine. ‘It is the way of the world’. Personally, I would tend to doubt this is the way it is. Anyone who holds this opinion might ask himself or herself, why He would have to create such a thing in the first place? Instead of using the energy required to manifest a great wave, why doesn’t He just alter the environment to any form He wants to, without having to go through doing it this way?

In California we have something called flash floods. When there is a heavy rainfall in the mountains of the deserts, a wall of water can rush down out of the hills in drainage channels called washes. Many people have camped in these flat brushy water ways, completely unaware that the rain in the distance, is going to produce a raging torrent coming down these dry channels. So when someone comes to them under a clear blue sky, and tells them they had better move, or they will surly drown, some will just not believe it.

Personally I don’t see Mary’s warnings as any different than this. We are being told to move out of the way of a great danger. The test of our faith is whether we will listen to the warning, or not. Instead of this understanding, we see the church has taken the position, that we should strive for peace, and martyr ourselves before an imminent persecution. At the same time they say, that Christ was crucified, so we wouldn’t have to go through this. So, is Mary just trying to pull our leg here, or what?

Another point I find confounding, is the reasons for why the Vatican will not make the secret public. They apparently feared the global communist movement would interfere with the Church activities if they did. They also felt, that people just wanted to know what was in the secret, because they were curious, or they thrived on sensationalism. Apparently, they didn’t feel that the common man could deal with the responsibility knowing about such an awesome message. Oddly enough, I find many self-righteous people commonly hold this view. I believe this position is tragic, if not completely stupid.

So, it is that Mary appears to 3 children in Fatima with these dire messages. Then again She is seen in Garabandal to 4 young girls, 5 children in Kenya, 4 children in Miedjugore, and so on. All of these appearances included messages about a time when there would be a hell on earth. Can you figure out why Mary can entrust these messages to 10 year old children, and the Pope can’t see fit to even reveal it to the priests in his own church?

Are the children able to bare the responsibility while grown ups are not? We might bare in mind, that none of these children have become anything special in the spiritual world. All of them will tell you they are only normal people. The girls at Garabandal are just as mystified by what happened as everyone else. You will pardon me then, if I have to say, that there is something amiss in the Church. Their piety has tainted their humanity. Their righteousness has perverted their trust in their fellow man. It is my belief, that this is part of the message from Mary as well.

As an additional note, in America, several shelters were being built by the US government away from the coastlines during the 1960’s. One of these is at the Greenbrier Hotel in Virginia. This shelter was designed to hold all of the members of Congress in case of an emergency. This work was done in secret. No one knew about it for more than 20 years later. In Switzerland a huge complex was built in the subway tunnels of Lucerne. This facility was designed to house 20,000 people for a month. Even though in Switzerland this is public information, no reason was given to anyone, about why this was being done.

So, it appears as though the Church and the governments of several countries have taken some precautions for their own safety. At the same time, it appears as though everyone else will have to fend for themselves. ‘We must be prepared to bear a great burden of blood, and death’. Personally, I think this is a bunch of BS, and a great demonstration of the lack of leadership on the part of those we have entrusted for our safety, and well being. At the least, we should have the right to know what they know. Each of us, should have the right to make an individual decision about preparing for what has been given to the Church.

A Secret, Not To Be Kept

Veronica Lueken message from Jesus

MAY 23, 1979

And what did you do when My Mother warned you many years ago, bishops, and cardinals in My House, My Church? What did you do to set a plan? To set in motion a plan, for saving the children, the sheep, your children in My Church? Because of pride, and arrogance you chose to keep this secret from the world. And now, what will you do? A House in darkness wears a band of death about it. (vol II page 215)

Perspective

In this message to Veronica from Jesus, we see Him give a severe scolding to the Vatican, for doing nothing about a warning given to them by Mary. The only question here is, whether the warning talked about in this message, was the one given by Mary in Fatima, or another warning She might have given directly to the Church Fathers. One thing appears to be certain, the warning was about something very dire. Something Jesus felt should have been relayed to all of the people of the Church. As we have seen at least some of what was in the third secret of Fatima, I believe it would be safe to assume, this was the message Jesus was talking about here.

As we continue through the predictions, you will see Veronica is given a great deal of detail about the coming Chastisement. These messages include information about the great waves, which were revealed in the third secret. I doubt very much Mary’s messages about this great cleansing, have varied. Because of the scale of the destruction associated with these messages, I also doubt She would be talking about more than one event. For these reasons, I would have to conclude, that this message from Jesus, was a chastisement of His Church (Roman Catholic), for not revealing the secret which was to be opened in 1960.

In addition, the date of this recording is after Veronica had received the details, which match what we know of the third secret. Therefore, I believe, this message was also meant to be a confirmation, that what Veronica was being told, is what was relayed to the Church. His use of the words ‘many years ago’, would make one wonder if Jesus felt that, the third secret should have been revealed as soon as it was received, in 1917. As this admonishment of the Church came almost 20 years after 1960, you cannot say, He has not been patient. Do the church officials not believe, that the messages really were from Jesus, and Mary? Do they not believe, what the message says?

Jesus clearly states here that He wanted the Church make some kind of plan, in order to prepare for what Mary had told them about. Has the Catholic Church done anything to promote the news to its followers, that they should begin to store some food, move away from coastal areas, or build better shelters? Why can't they move on this? Could it be they have become locked into the same kind of thinking, that led the Pharisees to crucify Jesus? I would have to believe so. So it is ‘a House in darkness wears a band of death about it’. At this point, we can only imagine what that will mean. One thing is for sure, it will not be Jesus who is crucified this time.

As a postscript, this is one of the messages, which has created problems for Veronica, with a number of people within the Church. This, and other messages which were critical of the Church and the actions of the Pope, are frowned upon by many of the believers of the Christian faith. It appears to me, that this is a prime example of the parable of the Truth. When the Truth came dressed in a fine coat of many colors, and told the people the way it really was, he was beaten severely. Such is the nature of ignorance in man.

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